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determinator

Dat grim leather-jacketed dude wif da sunglasses who possesses dogged perseverance and dedication in his endeavors to bump off people.

Achmed the Dead Terrorist has quite a self-proclaimed "determinator" status himself, yet he never seems to be able to actually follow through on his "keeling".

by QuacksO May 7, 2022


determinator

A meatier less intelligent yet infinity funnier version of the terminator. Created during a fake ending to the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie, in which meatwad portrays his impersonation of the terminator.

Meatwad "I'm the determinator. I need your clothes boots and motorcycle"

Master Shake "I said I want those things, I don't have them"

*Meatwad shoots Master Shake*

Meatwad "you've been determined"

by dkosty September 28, 2010


generative determinism

A theory of anthropology in which disproportionately female-inherited genetic variation causes a culture to adopt a fatalistic (spectralistic) religion; whereas disproportionately male-inherited genetic variation causes a tribe to adopt a deterministic (particularistic) religion.

Generative determinism demonstrates that anti-semitism is ontologistic.

Generative determinism resolves GENETIC determinism.

Genetic determinism furthermore proves that ontologism IS causation.

by sandrashine August 4, 2019


Legal system determined mental incompetence

Nonono I drew the parallel but that isn't the fundamental claim

Hym "It's that he has a level of Legal system determined mental incompetence that prevents him from truly consent. It's fucking ridiculous."

by Hym Iam April 3, 2024


Determined or Random

I'm glad that you brought that up because it takes me to my second problem with determinism. Let's try and visualize your argument.

D

>ID - ID

R > R

ED
So, and action is either Random (R) or Determined. If it's Determined it's either Internally (ID) or Externally (ED) Determined. If it's Externally Determined, then you have no control. If it's Internally Determined, then the internal determination is either Determined or Random. And I'm guessing that by "Determined" you mean "The necessary byproduct of an antecedent chain in which the actor or mechanism could not have done otherwise," Correct? Is that close? Does that make sense? I feel like there are a lot of presuppositions that need to be unpacked.

Hym "So, how is asking whether or not something is determined or random any different than asking whether or not my bedroom is hot or cold? It's both. And neither. It's, like, luke warm. So, you presuppose the absence of a grey area between determined and random. That random and determine don't exist on a spectrum in the same way hot and cold exist on a spectrum. As though thinks can't be more or less determined or more or less random. Is the outcome of a coin to more or less random than the outcome of rolling a 20 sided dice? You could say that the outcome is determined I guess. By the exact about of force used to roll the dice or flip the coin.

The relationship between the material of the dice and the material of the surface of the table or the conditions of the air in the room you're flipping the coin. Also, if we accept 'determined' as 'the necessary byproduct of an antecedent chain in which the actor or mechanism could not have done otherwise' you presuppose that what happens in response to a given antecedent chain is what OUGHT to happen in response to said chain. So, Antecedent Chain A -> either Outcome A or Outcome B. If ACA -> OA then you have to presuppose that what ought to happen in response to ACA is OA. If ACA -> OB then, again, you're forced to presuppose that what ought a happen in response to ACA is OB. But if the likelihood of ACA leading to OB is 1% and it HAPPENS ANYWAY... What you have is NOT an outcome that 'couldn't have been otherwise' but, rather, SHOULD have been otherwise and wasn't. Ya feel me? So, I know this doesn't demonstrate free will but I don't think you have been able to successfully demonstrate that there isn't a point at which 'the self' is not the fundamental locus of control in any given choice. It's a good argument though. It's tricky. But it's like a weird semantic blackhole. It's like saying 'Well, if you don't actively control the firing of your neurons, you don't actually control yourself.' Just weird. Determined or random."

by Hym Iam December 5, 2023