Machiavellian victory

Something that seems like a win for everybody involved that doesn't lose everything, though they're often not actually getting/keeping everything, and are actually slowly losing little by little over a long period of time.

People thought it was a Machiavellian victory when a few houses in their neighborhood were burned down or gentrified, then a few more houses and neighbors were lost, and lost everything in the process, then a few more, until finally there was nothing left of what was once their neighborhood. The machine, and the people that were part of the machine took it from them, and they let it slip away from them without ever wak8ng up to fight for it.

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Machiavellian Wheel-barrow

Similar to the sexual position, 'the wheel-barrow' (i.e on one's back in a submissive role with the legs pulled over the partner's shoulders) the bottoming person would be either debating, complaining, glaring (or all at the same time) during the entire process.

I was trying to make him comfortable for his first time, but the agitated little shit kept patronizing me and glaring at me. It was probably my fault for provoking him, but heck it was a total Machiavellian wheel-barrow moment.

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Collective Machiavellianism

Collective Machiavellianism in plain is the same as normal Machiavellianism, but enacted by a group of people, big or small.

This group will use whatever means they can, and if required, will use unethical means to achieve the goals they want, historically, it has been associated with fearmongering from demagogues to get populations of their followers on goal with their fearmongered ideals, such as the Salem Witch Trials, or the McCarthy era and red scare in general.

other times Collective Machiavellianism is simply caused by a group being forced to obey the status quo or other standards imposed on them by the group that subjugates them to carry out the overall Collective's will, whether good or bad. It will more than likely always end up in a bad context as the aim is for the Collective to gain the necessary power to carry out the aims their reaching out for, then maintain them regardless of the means needed to do so. Historically, often seen at the terrible expense of others not a part of that group, such as the many workers in the McCarthy era that were practically barred from their jobs after being fired for being alleged communists within their communities.

At times, even people in the Collective may be completely opposed to the Collective's ideals but feel that they must conform regardless; this is usually acquainted to the lucifer effect.

One of if not the greatest evil within Humanity. Think of INGSOC from 1984 whenever you hear this term, or MAGA republicans.

Sally has allegations being thrown at her by multiple guys in the guy's friend group. They are doing this because she had rejected one of them, and now they want to get their revenge on her by working together to make false accusations about her in order to ruin her image at school. They plan to continue the rumors until their able to force her to do what they want her to do for them. This is an example of Collective Machiavellianism

Collective Machiavellianism

This group will use whatever means they can, and if required, will use unethical means to achieve the goals they want, historically, it has been associated with fearmongering from demagogues to get populations of their followers on goal with their fearmongered ideals, such as the Salem Witch Trials, or the McCarthy era and red scare in general.

other times Collective Machiavellianism is simply caused by a group being forced to obey the status quo or other standards imposed on them by the group that subjugates them to carry out the overall Collective's will, whether good or bad. It will more than likely always end up in a bad context as the aim is for the Collective to gain the necessary power to carry out the aims their reaching out for, then maintain them regardless of the means needed to do so. Historically, often seen at the terrible expense of others not a part of that group, such as the many workers in the McCarthy era that were practically barred from their jobs after being fired for being alleged communists within their communities.

At times, even people in the Collective may be completely opposed to the Collective's ideals but feel that they must conform regardless; this is usually acquainted to the lucifer effect.

Sally has allegations being thrown at her by multiple guys in the guy's friend group. They are doing this because she had rejected one of them, and now they want to get their revenge on her by working together to make false accusations about her in order to ruin her image at school. They plan to continue the rumors until their able to force her to do what they want her to do for them. This is a highschooler's example of Collective Machiavellianism.

machiavellian marsupial

A rare specimen of nature who only comes out in the darkest of times, commonly to save some-or even the world...

This thing could also come under the name will (Will Thompson) as he only comes out at night, to be the superhero to my villain.

People ADORE him!

Bellow Will Eccleston btw

its will thompson! omg! machiavellian marsupial

Machiavellian victory

A win for everybody that was never really a win for anybody, since at least one person, if not everybody, lost something to the machine/system, or someone that was part of the machine/system. Disney was/is a master of Machiavellian principles, since people feel like they gain something by waiting in a line at Disneyland/Disney World for 45 minutes of their time instead of an hour of their time. Really it's Disney that gains from this, since people think Disney has a real concern for their families, and not for the Disney reputation and lost dollar signs that would come with any damage to the Disney reputation.

It would be a Machiavellian Victory if one of the two buildings was demolished, or if 4 or 5 of your 10 neighbors homes burned to the ground and yours didn't, you feel like you kept or even gained something by not losing everything, but half of your neighborhood is lost forever and half your neighbors lost everything. So, a Machiavellian victory is when people feel like everybody won because they didn't lose everything, when really just one person or entity actually gained/benefitted from what actually hzppened. Really most wars have casualties, so they are Machiavellian victories if your country doesn't lose a war, since somebody somewhere still lost a family member. Life is a matter of what you lose and not what you win or gain.

Psychopathic Narcissistic Machiavellian Demons

Give me a break Jordan. You’re not going on a personal tangent, huh? Cuz Jonathan Haidt told you you weren’t. It sounds like you are. It sounds like you are acting out your personal vendettas against someone anonymous instead of “acting out” you’re “belief” in God. How are you not doing the same thing as the woke types right now?

Hym “See.... Didn’t you say part of the problem with people not standing up to the whole mob was that people didn’t agree but they were keeping quiet for fear of people coming after them? But with your new stance on anonymity it seems to be the case that that’s what you want. You want people to be subject to the same sort of fear except in the other direction. You’re not better than the trans-activists. ‘BE NICE TO ME OR ELSE I’LL WEILD THE SYSTEM AGAINST YOU!’ Just like the retard and those whores at the group home. You’re all the fucking same. And I’m the coward? How? You know who I am. Actually. Psychopathic Narcissistic Machiavellian Demons? So melodramatic. You’re a fucking wacko. Let’s see it. Let’s see how far you’re willing to go. Conflict avoidant bitch.”