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everywhere in New York State EXCEPT for the city
used to make everyone who doesn’t live in the city feel better about themselves because they have a fancy title too
a way to shut out the city in hopes to bring attention to the fact that New York is an entire state, and New York does not always mean the city
person A: Where do you live?
person B: New York
person A: how’s the city life?
person B: no, idiot, i live in Upstate New York and i despise the city.
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upstate new york does not refer to the proximity of new york city; its the entire state in general. upstate is anything north of westchester county.
The 5 bouroughs, nassau, suffolk and weschester are downstate.
the only debate is westchester, not because of the social/economical connections with the city, its just that its north of the bronx. But most people say that it is downstate.
if you think long island is upstate then you are obviously from one of the citys bad schools or from any upstate school (north of weschester). Learn your geography! This isnt that hard! Not one person I have ever met has even knew that this was a "debate"(which its not).
Someone from long island/New York City: "Im going upstate this weekend"
Friend: "your going north of westchester? watch out for the tractors!
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The vast area encompassing New York State north of Westchester county. A varied mosaic of farmland, woodland, picturesque rolling hills, and towns and cities ranging from the charming to the decrepit. Generally more provincial and less cosmpolitan than its densely urban New York City counterpart, its citizenry is more approachable and friendly albeit less refined and cultured than the pretentious yuppies of New York and Long Island. Some of its urban centers are buoyed economically and culturally by the influence of many universities and (in the case of the capital region) government administration centers; however most of its large cities are mired in varying states of urban decay and have been hemorrhaging population since the 1950s due to a steady loss of jobs and a subsequent increase in crime. Utica, Rochester, and Newburgh are particularly miserable places to set foot in. Its more rural areas, which feature breathtaking landscapes, are lovely and bucolic albeit mind-numbingly boring to actually live in.
In summation, upstate New York is too large and varied an area to define succinctly. As a native resident of New York City who went to college upstate I can both laud it for being physically beautiful and its natives for being candid, frank, and hospitable while noting that I would never want to live there permanently as life there can grow trite, repetitive, cold as hell, and insufferably boring after a while and the locals' lack of sophistication and city-esque hustle, while charming at first, can also eventually grow unflattering. Not that I'd want them to change. Their lack of tact and culture is offset by their good character and sincerity, something too many city residents and Long Islanders sorely do not have. Both Upstate and Downstate need each other, more or less. It's a yin-yang thing.
New Yorker 1: I'm going upstate for the summer.
New Yorker 2: You'll love it in Upstate New York for the first few weeks. It's nice to get away from the yuppie assholes down here for a while. Eventually, though, you'll need to come back to civilization.
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Upstate New York refers to that portion of New York State which is not part of the New York City Metropolitan area. There is some debate as to the southernmost point of Upstate New York, but a general consensus exists that anything north of Westchester and Rockland Counties qualifies.
Upstate New York differs from Long Island, New York City, and Westchester/Rockland in a number of ways, among them: 1) Lower population density; 2) Lower socioeconomic status; 3) More conservative politics; 4) Midwestern accent and culture; 5) Colder winters with much greater snow totals.
Upstate New York has been in decline, economically, for many decades. Many of its cities, such as Schenectady and Buffalo, have experienced substantial de-population since the mid-20th Century. As a result, many Upstate New York residents harbor a great deal of resentment towards "Downstate".
It snows in Upstate New York, almost non-stop, from November to April.
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Most intelligent people know that "Upstate New York" has traditionally been the land north of Albany. Just because something is "up" from NYC, doesn't make it part of "Upstate New York". You might be going "upstate" or "up the state" but you will never be in "Upstate New York" while visiting Rhinebeck, Poughkeepsie, White Plains, etc.
And think about this - what do you think people in Rhinebeck, Poughkeepsie, etc say when they are visiting Lake George, for example. "Oh we're going to Up-Upstate New York" ???? Of course not! That's because Rhinebeck/Poughkeepsie/White Plains people do NOT LIVE IN UPSTATE NEW YORK!
Think rationally --- and read a textbook. Maybe you'll learn something about the history of New York (and the geography).
Matt: Where are you from?
Peter: Kingston
Matt: Ohhhhhh Upstate New York
Peter: *smacks Matt on head*
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Anywhere north or east of the areas of NYC and Long Island. Contains The Great Escape theme park in the village of Lake George, Fun Spot in the city Queensbury, and Camp Chingachgook on the shores of Lake George. Has lots of wiggers in the Alvany metro area. Not many hicks. Very rural. Kind of like a mini version of North Dakota.
I live in Round Lake, a village in Upstate New York.
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-The northern part of New York north of Albany and in the Hudson River area. Just saying now, Buffalo, Syracuse and Rochester are not upstate. They are in Central-Western New York.
-NOT WESTCHESTER, AND DEFINITELY NOT LONG ISLAND!
And just to clear this up, not all Upstaters are good-for-nothing hicks. Sure, some are, but everywhere has hicks and wierdos. The only reason that a lot of upstaters don't have jobs is because all the jobs left in the 50's, making New York (the state, idiot out-of-staters) the poorest state per capita.
-Upstate is not a crime-ridden slum as several cities, like Port Jervis have displayed to us. People here have manners and common sense.
-A LOT prettier than the city, which is more crime infested and poorer (per capita).
OK, this damn thing keeps erasing my example and telling me to say Upstate New York, even though I DID so now i just said it.
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