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An argument on top of a counter.
Mikey and I had a counter argument last night.
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Fallacy of the red herring: Ignoring a criticism of an argument by changing attention to another subject.
Sure I ran the car into a tree, but you forgot my brithday.
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You can't argue, 'Nuff Said
Bacon is awesome, your argument is invalid
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A variant of the gambler's fallacy - "it is harder to dig yourself out of a hole than it is to dig deeper."
My friend Melvin won't stop buying Funko Pops - he says his collection won't sell for anything unless he has a complete set. I guess he's never heard of the coal miner's argument.
The person who speaks least in an argument, wins.
Johannes spoke four words. Jenny spoke twenty. By Conservation Of Argumental Volume, Johannes won.
Also called the motte-and-bailey fallacy. A sort of rhetorical bait-and-switch where one puts forward a controversial point, then claims that they're actually arguing something far less controversial if challenged. This is often done by giving something an agreeable name (e.g., claiming that people who oppose Black Lives Matter the group oppose black lives mattering as a basic concept).
First coined by the philosopher Nicholas Shackel in 2005 and popularized by Star Slate Codex in 2014. Named after a style of medieval castle, where the hillfort (motte) is surrounded by a walled village (bailey). If the bailey was overrun, defenders could fall back to the motte and better weather the attack.
"You don't like MAGA flags, huh? What's wrong with wanting America to be great?"
"Stop it, that's a motte-and-bailey argument and you know it."
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An argument that an individual will make despite the fact they don't believe the central premise of their own argument. An argument that's made just to argue.
This is such a puck to the face argument, Chris, you don't even believe that WWF wrestling is real.
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