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I have read most of the definitions on this page. Most are not true. In fact, over half on here are defiantly not happy with their lives, if they need to mock or threaten other cultures… same with religion, I must say. If Christians have such a strong belief in god and are happy with it, why do they need to poke at Satanists or pagans. Be proud of what you believe in, there are now laws protecting Satanists and occults.
There is hardly anything left of the 'Goth' scene today, all of the Goths either dress like eras from the past or either what they think the future will look like.
Being ‘Goth’ is not about self inflicted harm. Some of you may have serous problems and feel suicidal and may self harm. Do not boast about cutting for attention, and then complain about the more popular people round you needing attention all the time. Some of you may be unhappy, some incredibly happy with their lives. Cyber ‘Goths’ are always clubbing and dancing, they are labeled Goth and yet they are not dressing to show off that they cut themselves. If you had serous pain in some time of your live, and want to show people that you are ok now, proudly show your scars, it proves that you lived through drug abuse/child abuse or anything that made you commit that.
To all the teenagers out there who are dressing in black and claiming to be members of an occult, and always complain about not being around other people and have no friends. Why do you dress like that? It’s just intimidating and none of the other students your age will want to know you.
As for the others, be yourself. If being Goth means you have to force yourself to listen to music that sounds naturally bad, then why do you do it? If it is because all your friends or 'posse' are Goth, if they are truly your friends, they will understand if you want to become not Goth.
Isn’t this true?
If you complain, then you must defiantly be those I just explained. Listen to other peoples opinions, but question them if it needs questioning.
And just one last thing. This was written by a 13 year old. Just to let you know, i am not a hypocrite. I am proud of every word I say. If you saw me, you would not even know.
If you do know what I mean.
1. Goth could be anything you want it to be,there are so many types or areas of 'goths'.
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A goth is an artistic person with a huge aesthetic who expresses this in a dark way. Real gothic music is The Cure, Nine Inch Nails, Sisters Of Mercy etc. Goths are ususally associated with Satanism, which is completely untrue because you will find goths tend to have no religious beliefs or no strong religious beliefs, though a very very very small minority are Satanists. Goth is also usually a term used as an attempted insult by chavs and the like, mainly because chavs have nothing better to do besides insult people different to them and terrorise communities.
1) From a chav-Yowm a fucking goth, yow worship the devil ya freak, dya wanna fight?
2) From a goth to a chav-Tit
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Ok, here's my definition...
Someone who is not affraid to be different, listens to rock style music (usually metal, gothic rock, goth punk, alternative etc) and does not wish to be popular. They have creative talents and are usualy completely missunderstood.
Having trawled through the other definitions on this site, i have found things which i dissagree with. Just because someone labels themself goth, does not mean that they are a fake, or a posser. If someone wears black nail polish eyeliner etc, this also does not make them posser goth. It just means that that is how they wish to look and this is what goth means to them.
Also, music is something which we can debate. a goth can listen to any band they like, you cannot say that because someone who calls themself a goth, listens to manson, then they are not a "real" goth, thats stupid. manson is a goth. the whole band are goths. so, therefore, a goth band. other bands like HIM, have been debated. HIM are a goth band, no matter what you say. Ville Valo is a goth. He writes gothic lyrics. All of the songs are of a gothic style. again, a goth band, which ever way you look at them. Deathstars are a personal favorite of mine, they are also goth. ofcourse, having said that a goth can listen to any music, i do need to contradict myself. a goth that listens to r and b would be just damn riddiculous.
OK, examples. A goth is someone who may or may not be partial to wearing black clothing but most often they do. listen to music of a rock genre (music does seem to have the biggest effects on who or what you are labeled as). they are not usually popular as this is not a neccesity to them. They are their own person, nobody elses.
Small minded person: You're not a goth, you listen to HIM
Goth: HIM are a goth band
Small minded person: No they're not
Goth: Why not???
Small minded person: Erm... cos thats what my friends say?
Goth: you're friends are stupid
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goths are not allways alone in the dark
a lot of em have loadssss of mates and allways having a gd time
but the worst thing is when they go onto the street peeps think there s.h.i.t but there exactly the same they just dnt beleive in wot we beleive and they dress in there type of clothes
~gothic person walks out onto the street~
`oi u idiot` <<<<chav shouts that
~gothic person gets a bit scared cause therez one of them and 10 chavs~
~chavs shout lots of abuse to the goth~
NOT FAIR
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goth:
a teen, often found in dark, elegant unique clothing
two goths are rarely the same.
stereo types of goths
moody;
goths come across as moody as the only people they will talk ot are the ones worth talking to.
they are often articulate, and are either extreamly intelligent, or extreamly creative and excel in their feild of speciality.
suicidal/depression/disorders:
most goths have a trait of depression, thus its only due to them knowing the world better than others and seeing it for how it is.
disorders can affect anyone at any time, but goths tend to show a paticularly good insight to what might be their problem and can often overcome it on their own.
goth:
a goth will most likely tell you she/he is NOT a goth, or that they supposedly fit into that label.
they are extreamly annoyed by the young teens trying to be goths and so on, and anyone who dosnt seem able of having their own identity. they tend to stay out of large groups and despise social circles, as they find the huge hype over nothing incredibly agravating.
though, to most people, the things a goth will talk about somtimes is nonsence and jsut a random subject, though it sounds like its not.
eg
go to camden market in london
its full of goths
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Goth is a subculture existing both on and offline. It consists of people of all ages, nationalities, races, religions, and sexualities. Inside the subculture a many differant categories some of the main ones I list below. Though no one is completely in just one category.
Baby Goth - Typically a newbie to the gothic subculture. These goths tend to believe the only way to be goth is with black lips, black nails, a paper white face, and excessive eye liner.
Glitter Goth - The more colorfull side of the subculture. Glitter Goths are known for their bright colors and hair extensions. Glitter goths are typically the life of any party. Popular glitter goth colors are bright yellow, electric blue, and hot pink.
Classical Goth - These Goths enjoy dressing up in medieval clothing. These goths are especially known for their sewing skills.
Blue Jean Goth - This is the low budjet goth. The majority of this goths closet consists of jeans and t-shirts. These goths can get very inventive in their clothing alterations.
There are many more but I think I'll stop here.
Extra trivia:
Popular music for goths: gothic, new age, techno, hard rock, metal
Popular colors: black, dark reds, dark blues, silver, white.
Wow! Look at all the glitter goths!
That baby goth has watched the crow too many times.
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In reference to the subculture;
A term that has been thrown around so much these days, who knows what it actually means. I know that, it seems to be defined by the music you listen to... which I think, personally, is ridiculous. Even some of the the open minded people who say they are goth assume that all fans of slipknot and manson are posers, and think that they're badass because they listen to that music. Well, here's a newsflash- goths can wear tons of different styles of clothes and listen to different styles of music. Just because someone listens to Slipknot or Marilyn Manson doesn't mean they are poser. There are a lot of types of goths, and suggesting music defines the person is just stupid and close-minded. So, instead of listening to all these people saying "goths are depressed, suicidal satanists (which, btw, isnt the evil religion people make it out to be o.O)" ALONG with "all people who like slipknot and manson are posers who think theyre goths and are just trying to be 'cool'", why don't you listen to me and the other people with brains out there who know that "goth" doesn't rely on music or religion or anything like that.
(shortened version: a subculture that ISN'T just about wearing black nail polish and listening to certain music and its hard to define it, because theyre all so different.)
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